Enough BS

Warning!! If you don't know who I am, or what I am talking about in this post, chances are its not meant for you, but feel free to read on if you want.

I have come to a shocking conclusion that makes my skin crawl.
People talk a big game in secret, but do not seem to have the BALLS (yes, I am getting vulgar, deal with it) to aproach the ST when they really have a problem. Instead, you get behind the scene rumor mills that ruin a game.

Enough. I cannot speak for the STs of this chat, but I personally have enough. Therefor I warn all of you potential cowards who wont bring your opinion up to an ST to stand to what you think, that if I catch you spreading shit oocly, I will screenshot it and send it in to the appropriate STs.

I am tired of taking shit because supposedly "I am the only person who says anything". If I see a problem, I go and I talk to an ST, and I stand to my opinion. After a discussion, its solved, end of story.

Bottom line is, if you dont have the BALLS to aproach an ST with what you see wrong, then please do not bother bringing it up elsewhere. Don't go talking a great shit and whining and then do nothing about it. You will be surprised, STs actually listen to you on this chat and take your suggestions (if posted in a diplomatic fashion) into consideration.

There, nough said....

Johnny

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I hated going to weddings. All the grandmas would poke me saying "You're next". They stopped that when I started doing it to them at funerals. -Bash.org

You know what, you're right.. It is enough BS Johnny...

Now I've known you a long damn time, and frankly right now I am kinda disappointed.. Rumors happen dude its a chat..Comes with the webspace, shit goes down.. But here's what I've seen thus far.

A. We have a guy (yes Kaleed player) who went out of his way to gather players (myself included) to play a clan.. So yes the clan is the biggest, yes he was given adjusted stats-But as I recall you play the only KoE character on chat so...--Also we as a CLAN, that means as a whole have been putting forth effort to furthering the goals of the clan. No where in there do we think we should run the Cam its self..Personally I deem it to much hassle.

B. The other clans are lacking..Sure it looks bad, because each clan has one character while the Tremere have lets say 4 to 5 PCs.. But we on a whole are not the average Tremere brood, and just because we have numbers means little int he mush of things.. And I am for one exteremely upset that the words Favoritism leave ANYONES lips on this chat.. (You know who you are) how DARE YOU accuse MG or another ST of such a messure.. Nothing and I mean totally NOTHING was freely given, or even 'looked the other way' at simply because a player is there.. The words of such are steep and sharp, because if there was favoritism ANYWHERE I'd have a 4th generation Caitiff bloodline with my own personal Displine, and I'd have Caines Mark...Do I have that? No!

C. As for the facts of PCs honing up to higher positions.. Let me point out that with this power setting let me direct you to the book of Primogen..Oh yes friends and geeklets it can IN FACT be a player spot.. If you'd like to make it a voted slot...Feel free to suggest such.. I am sure the STs can make the Camrilla game very Governmental.

So my suggestion? People, Johnny its a damn game.. And at this point its put up or shut up, but the actions need to happen IC brother..For those of you lacking in clan members go out and convince people to play them.. Hell do something at all..That'd be awesome..Other wise.. Find something else to play more your speed.

Thats my two cents
Mortis T Karic

I will say that if anyone has a problem, they do need to bring it up to a ST. I do not ridicule, or anything along those lines for someone coming to talk to me about a problem. I do not want to hear of crap like this, because it makes me feel that people don't feel comfortable with the ST team. If someone has a problem, they need to either talk to a ST or an admin. I can guarantee you that as much as I am online, there should be no problem talking to me about a problem. I don't think I am hard to talk to, and therefore I am one that always tries to talk and work things out. I do not believe that anyone should have a problem voicing an opinion. As Mort said, this is just a game...so there shouldn't be -any- problem from anyone to talk to a ST. If anyone has a problem, then find me, and tell me...or find MG. I am more than willing to listen to a problem. I just wish that if there is a problem, than please talk to me, fpm me, or email me. I will talk to anyone about a problem that they have, but I can't be a mind reader and automatically know what problem you may have. I am posting this so that everyone knows that I have no problem talking to anyone. But I have to know about said problem.

I'm trying to convinice people to play setites ^^ ask velius ^^ Hey velius I got a lasombra and I wanna talk to you about forming a pack with you if your intressted let me know ok? ^^

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always come to us with issues. we will try to make it right. keep in mind however that sometimes we do have reasons we can't explain. usually for SL reasons and everything will play out.
Of course we want players to always come to us no matter what the issue. how ever guys lets remember we are people. be polite don't hound us. if we have worked on a issue berating us about it every other day isn't going to fix it. we are probably working on it behind the scenes. most of us on this chat are friends. don't abuse that by thinking it's ok to trash us. we have real lives and work as hard as we can.

taking that into consideration. if you know our pcs please don't constantly pm. whether your pestering for a scene, or going on a rant. a simple hi post, is fine, go ahead ask a question if we don't answer we are probaly busy. please respect that. we promise no player will be scene locked long and will gte to you as soon as humanly possible. real life can disrupt rp. so lets be mindful of that . even if you are IC with us to many pms slow the whole scene down.

be patient
be courteous
be adults
be respectful
lets have fun guys..really enough is quite enough. no more bashing

For Moris:

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A. We have a guy (yes Kaleed player) who went out of his way to gather players (myself included) to play a clan.. So yes the clan is the biggest, yes he was given adjusted stats-But as I recall you play the only KoE character on chat so...--Also we as a CLAN, that means as a whole have been putting forth effort to furthering the goals of the clan. No where in there do we think we should run the Cam its self..Personally I deem it to much hassle.

I believe I must refer you to my post, as to how the issues I might have had are past tense. Any "disapointement" you might feel is simply your opinion, which you are free to have, but don't twist the words of others as they type them. If you know me so long, you should know me better. If you don't, then I feel I should be the one who is disapointed. Or maybe you should just do your homework better and ask me directly instead of listening to the rumor mill yourself?

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	So my suggestion? People, Johnny its a damn game.. And at this point its put up or shut up, but the actions need to happen IC brother..For those of you lacking in clan members go out and convince people to play them.. Hell do something at all..That'd be awesome..Other wise.. Find something else to play more your speed.

I couldnt agree more, it should happen IC. My point? I dont want people wining and complaining that something isnt right, and then after even the 3rd time I tell them "go talk to an ST" they don't. They got a problem? They should have the guts to stick to their guns and tell someone, not whine, complain, spread rumors. Yes its a damn game Mortis, but if people keep mixing IC and OOC, spreading drama drama rumors, it no longer is a game, no longer fun. Are you begining to perhaps understand what I am saying? Is it becoming more clear now?

Let me know Mort, I will be happy to continue this discussion with you one on one if you want. I don't have a problem with an adult conversation.

Johnny

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I hated going to weddings. All the grandmas would poke me saying "You're next". They stopped that when I started doing it to them at funerals. -Bash.org

Ok iam going to voice my opinion at thsi time.....GET THE FUCK OFF THE sT'S BACK WILL YA I mean damn thay have a lot of shit to do ....shit that is a lot more gratifiying i am shur than being St's hell i dont even belive thay pull a Pay check for this shit...hell thay put ther own bersonial time in to this becaues thay enjoy this game and thay them selves love doign this becaue its fun for them and the crap that you ungraetfull sickafants need to stop bitchign and moaning abotu A GOD DAMN MOTHER FUCKIGN GAME